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wevenger
07-20-2009, 09:48 PM
Should the sale and consumption of alcohol be banned?
Why?
What are the effects of drinking alchohol?


Discuss it here.:)

Skye Heart
07-20-2009, 09:57 PM
No because I luv my rum even though I have to sneak it

KingKongDeLong
07-20-2009, 10:19 PM
no but i I think we should ALL have to show ids and if you get even one dui you are never allowed to buy alcohol ever again.....obviosly ways around this but drunk drivers would be cut in 1/2 ATLEAST since most dui's are from people driving hom from the bar

MasamuneSephiroth
07-20-2009, 10:36 PM
do you know how many people will get mad because of that? in Vodka is Russian for "water" Germany has alcohol festivals. parts of France is famous for its whine. the classic Pub in England. and the millions of bars in America. alcohol is every were. small amounts a day has healthy benefits. i drink at some parties as well. of course alcohol is bad, so is smoking, but its how you use the stuff depends if it is bad or not. (however i do think smoking is bad)

DustPebbles
07-21-2009, 12:04 AM
No, MORE people will die if alcohol is banned.

The Electron Zone
07-21-2009, 01:46 AM
No.

Alcohol + Prohibition = Chaos.

Read up on the Prohibition Act.

Omega Shenron
07-21-2009, 02:02 AM
i've never drank,touched drugs or anything and I'm keeping that way,life's better without it,but other have their reasons i suppose :P

stahlie
07-21-2009, 02:10 AM
The U.S. tried that once... it wasn't pretty.... It's trying it now with the [sic] 'War on Drugs' and that also isn't pretty ... or successful. Like any other Genie, once it's out of the lamp, it's damned difficult to force it back in... so like it or not, booze isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

KingKongDeLong
07-21-2009, 02:26 AM
do you know how many people will get mad because of that? in Vodka is Russian for "water" Germany has alcohol festivals. parts of France is famous for its whine. the classic Pub in England. and the millions of bars in America. alcohol is every were. small amounts a day has healthy benefits. i drink at some parties as well. of course alcohol is bad, so is smoking, but its how you use the stuff depends if it is bad or not. (however i do think smoking is bad)

Well not to sound like a dick to your response but wtf cares if a person with a DUI gets pissed about being banned from buying alcohol if you drink you should NOT drive but hell like they care its usually the other sober person who dies statisically I could care less what a person with a DUI has to say..,period

Quintessence
07-21-2009, 02:31 AM
It at least wouldn't work in the United States. The Eighteenth Amendment for Prohibition of alcohol was probably one of the most unpopular laws ever made in that country and, as you can see, the Twenty-First Amendment was passed to strike down the Eighteenth. I honestly don't believe that any so-called free country should ever prohibit its people from the consumption of something if they so wish.

Pink Bismuth
07-23-2009, 12:32 PM
Although I generally disapprove of alcohol I must say no it should not be banned because humans are far to used to it now to do without, besides even if it was banned it wouldn't go away it would just become another illegal drug.
(It's all "Soma" to me.)

darkdestiny0002
07-23-2009, 01:00 PM
Yes it should alot of people are suffering because of alcohol... My mom is a drunkard and i wish she could just stop but if we banned it then people would do it secretly...

Sugabombs
07-23-2009, 05:35 PM
Noo that's ridiculous, by the way Wine proves to be very good for your health.

MasamuneSephiroth
07-25-2009, 01:32 AM
my dad used to be an alcoholic, but he stopped and has not drank in 7 years. the violence and problems it causes can be solved threw how it is distributed and keeping people abusing the right.
"Help someone catch a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, you feed him for life."

ionman2a
07-25-2009, 01:36 AM
yes it should

Misaki
08-02-2009, 12:06 AM
It at least wouldn't work in the United States. The Eighteenth Amendment for Prohibition of alcohol was probably one of the most unpopular laws ever made in that country and, as you can see, the Twenty-First Amendment was passed to strike down the Eighteenth. I honestly don't believe that any so-called free country should ever prohibit its people from the consumption of something if they so wish.

nahh !
i agree with this ! >.<
everyone will make moonshine!which is dangerous as it has all sorts of chemicals and impurities in it which killed and blinded people and there were Bootlegging industries everywhere. they even brought in police officers to catch illeagal selling of alcahol, but the officers were oftne bribed into keeping quiet.
alcahol isnt dangerous, its the person who mis-uses it that's the dangerous one.

Shinji
08-02-2009, 07:39 PM
Alcohol should never be banned!
I love drinking it and i love the effects
Except for the mornings
of course i only love the effects on me, not anybody else (:

Ash: the Angel of Battle
08-03-2009, 12:49 AM
It's already been done once in America, and look how that turned out. The crime rate skyrocketed, and on top of that more people died because of it. I could only imagine what would happen now if it was banned.

Saber
08-03-2009, 01:11 AM
Its not the alcohols fault. Its the people who drink it that should learn moderation.

There are always things around to get hooked on and a lot of them have negative effects. So people should learn self discipline.

Ash: the Angel of Battle
08-03-2009, 01:15 AM
But they won't. In a way all of us are like children. When we are told not to do something we just can't seem to help ourselves but to do it anyway. Not saying everyone's like that, but a lot of people are.

tupac115
10-24-2009, 04:33 PM
I really dont think alcohol should be banned.If it was,imagine the sort of pandemonium it may cause.Lets take a look at the bigger picture.
The spirit industry that has always helped maintained the economy wil be devastated.All those beer factories,all those wine vineyards and liquoir distillments all going out of bussiness.All those people earning a living there would be out of a job and imagine the impact that would have on the economy.It would be like tightening a noose on our own heads.Alcohol companies are also major sponsors of various motor sports and football clubs.Imagine this teams without sponsorship and with less funding to improve on their respective teams.

That is only on the economic point of the reprecussions of banning alcohol,like Ash stated the crime rate will rise and so forth.
So i think banning alcohol is too drastic a measure.I understand some of the opnions of the others here who have drunkard family members and friends but thats why we have rehabilitation centre for.To help with addiction.Personally i think that if someone wants to stop drinking and is really resolved to do it,he or she can.It does not take a miracle,it just take something each and every one of us is born with.A thing we call willpower.

cooler
10-24-2009, 04:37 PM
me uncle jerome says alcohol causes more crime than weed
i beleve hime he is always so chilled and relaxed when he smokes
so i think both should be legal but weed is better

emikochan
10-29-2009, 02:53 PM
Its not the alcohols fault. Its the people who drink it that should learn moderation.

There are always things around to get hooked on and a lot of them have negative effects. So people should learn self discipline.

This, Also a reason why less substances should be illegal imo. Legal = regulated = less dangerous. People need support..


But they won't. In a way all of us are like children. When we are told not to do something we just can't seem to help ourselves but to do it anyway. Not saying everyone's like that, but a lot of people are.

Sorry to burst your bubble but most people aren't mentally deficient, the majority of people have no problems with substances. It's just the minority that make a big noise/mess.

I don't know about you but if someone gives me a good reason not to do something, then I'm NOT going to do it.

@cooler, ys alcohol and cigarettes kill more people (directly and indirectly) than pretty much anything else (after heart disease / other cancer).

weed...has never killed anyone.

Sleeping Darkness
10-29-2009, 04:37 PM
i say alchohol should stay O.o just make sure younger pepole are not allowed to have it
also selling it should not be a problem
besides some pepole love alchohol

DarkKai421
10-30-2009, 04:11 PM
Eh, no. I would love to see a riot in this state (maybe that would wake our government up). I'd love to participate in one as well, it seems like fun and I hate the US government anyway.
I accidently got drunk at 12. My brother gave me some and said it was grape juice o.O worse tasting grape juice I ever had! Although, I like it, it may be bad for you but if you can't relieve stress it's even worse for your health. Obviously I don't mean everyone should be an alcoholic, but everyone needs to relieve strees once n' a while.
Most of the Us would get pissed off if they banned it. It's basically like saying "fun is illegal."

Eclipse
10-30-2009, 05:38 PM
i say alchohol should stay O.o just make sure younger pepole are not allowed to have it
also selling it should not be a problem
besides some pepole love alchohol

You talk like your 20 years old.. if kids wont be alloweed to have it that means you too -.-
And who said that Alchohol is bad? It's a good thing.. You're not allowed do drink a lot but it's still a good thing, it did save people lives.. but not in the when drinking it >.<

I think Alchohol shouldn't be banned, people need to relax sometimes and alchohol is a good way to relax.

Tien
11-03-2009, 06:04 PM
If alcohol was banned then alcoholics would resort to crime to feed their habbits.

cooler
11-03-2009, 08:05 PM
If alcohol was banned then alcoholics would resort to crime to feed their habbits.
naaa man u could get it from dealers like me weed

Saber
11-04-2009, 03:14 AM
I think alcohol is not the problem,its the people who drink the alcohol and do binge drinking.

Many european people ,for example, drink with meals and daily but dont drink excessively. Also their children might have watered down wine with a meal at home. (I am not promoting this btw) But they dont binge drink like the English people tend to. I come from a background where the binge sort of thing is a big problem but many dont see it like that. They have never known any different. Indeed in the town where I was born, it has maybe 50 pubs and also there is a mile of road going out of the town which has pubs every few buildings.
Many of the locals travel this mile in one evening and have a drink at every pub.
you can imagine the results. They probably do this every Friday and Saturday and then have no money for the rest of the week to go out. They spend Sunday recovering before they go back to work on Monday.
Their families ,unless part of it would probably benefit so much more if this wasnt happening.
The money they would have for other things would be huge amounts.
I think that maybe it should be banned in these places as it would improve the quality of many families lives. Also those addicted to this pattern of behaviour,never mind what it does to their health, would find other interests. Honestly unless you have been part of this background you cannot conceive the problems it creates.

All the negative problems that come with excessive drinking also are prominent.
Thats like violence in pubs and on the streets. Domestic violence. Poverty, and malnourishment of the children.

Arachnion
11-06-2009, 04:16 AM
Guys, we already tried this with the 18th amendment. It didn't work.

tupac115
02-02-2010, 02:41 AM
I would have to agree with Her Majesty Saber.Alcohol is not the problem,its the people who binge drink that are.
Substance abuse has been around for every wrong,weather its weed,coke,alcohol or cigarettes.
The substance itself its not to blame.We always have a choice on weather we want to take them or not.They dont force feed this stuff to us and get us addicted at birth.
Banning alcohol wont do any good.We just have to learn to restrain ourselves.

fullblue
02-02-2010, 05:41 AM
If alcohol is banned, some of our tradition might be affected and also some food might no longer can be served.

While I do not know any alcoholics, I go with the idea stand of let them do it themselves. If we ban it, it will affect not only them but also those who drink for celebration. I tend to go with the stand let them harm themselves as long as they don't harm others. In this subject I'd say that banning is not required as long as proper control is being done. Drink driving can be reduced by having police stationed near bars and other places to drink. Education will also help to reduce it or maybe harsher penalty for those who do so.

Maybe some of us often stumble upon those who are high on alcohol. Personally I won't bother with them as long as they don't get violent. They might be throwing random curse in their drunken stupor, maybe some might find it insulting, but we can choose to ignore it can we? If they are getting violent we still have the choice to call the police or run immediately.

KozaKuraHaiNe
02-02-2010, 01:33 PM
No. Not everyone is crazy for booze. I agree with Paccy that the drink is not at fault, but the person who consumes it. I also agree with blue. Tradition and lifestyle will be affected if booze is banned.

People should control their intake and if they want to go for a night out, they should at least take a taxi home, so that they won't threaten people's lives. Like blue said, harsher penalties or education can help people control their drinking habits.

Izumi168
02-02-2010, 03:55 PM
In the Little Red Dot, the gahmen effectively reduced the alcohol consumation by taxing it alcohol so much that one could buy 2 1.5 bottles of Coke for a can of beer. Very effective. Since we are a politically ''repressed'' country, no one complains.

Rika Furude
02-06-2010, 09:38 AM
Even though i do not drink myself,i see no point in banning it because even if we managed to ban it,the people will find a way to smuggle it into the country somehow.Alcohol is being consumed by a lot of people.People cannot just up and forget traditions like fullblue said.

The problem lies in the person.if they know the limits then alcohol will never be a problem.I have friends that take alcohol and they always know ow to keep it within reasonable levels.

Goku-sama
02-06-2010, 02:56 PM
They could try. but Prohibition didn't work in the past. So I doubt it'll work now...

On the up and up it would be great for the Moonshiners! :thumbs:

Shinji
02-11-2010, 07:21 PM
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
its way too much fun to drink

GDXTom
02-13-2010, 05:14 AM
I would support the ban on alcohol. However, seeing that alcohol is part of some traditions, cultures, and the prohibition failed to stop alcohols... I think we should let people drink alcohol if they want to. Usually, I'm just against beer, not rum, rice wine, wines, and other alcohol.

It's people decisions to choose whether they want to drink or not, and one thing that is positive about this for me, is that I am going to complain with families, relatives, cousins, friends, and their families that they should not drink and smoke. Not that I would hate to complain, but I actually would love to complain with them because I am discussing with them about economics and moral life.

Kanoke
02-13-2010, 05:31 AM
It didn't work before during the prohibition era, and it won't work now. Simple as that.
So no, alcohol should not be banned.

Harrison N. Kore
02-13-2010, 09:26 AM
Alcohol has been a prominent point of discussion throughout America's history. Whether it be from President Grant's chronic alcoholism on the battlefield to the Prohibition era, it has been widely discussed amongst many circles. As a Libertarian, however, I must express that I am in support of Prohibition of alcohol and drugs, and I'll tell you why. This goes into the fundamentals of government. What should the government do? I believe it should protect every human's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, in its jurisdiction. That's what I essentially believe as its main duty, and that's all it should have authority over us. All crimes must be based off of that.

With that, I also believe that the government should also create as many programs as it wants, but it must be with the consent of the people who want it, and it should not be paid by taxes. It should be paid by donations of people who support it. Now, that should be an imperative the government does outside of its authority. It should utilize that capacity like any other person or corporation out there. It should be equal to any program developed by the Citizens of a country. However, the government should not stand equal on the field of enforcing laws against crime, because that's what the people of a society elect a government to do in the first place. It's supposed to defend our rights. Among the rights that I previously stated, however, I should also mention that they are inalienable. That means that the government is supposed to make sure no man, woman, or child takes them away from you. That also means that it should make sure that you don't take it away from yourself.

Suicide is murder. Consenting to throwing yourself into slavery or prostitution is a violation of your right to liberty. That's because the Law should not persecute the act for the person that's doing it; it should persecute the act for the essence of the act itself. Before we argue why something should or should not be illegal, we need to make our logic clear. Crimes aren't just something legislators can decide on a whim on what is or isn't an illegal act. There must be a certain standard or rubric that they must use, or else a country becomes a land without any principle or logic. It needs a foundation on what to build more intricate laws, but it seems that many people have ceased to do that nowadays, which is why there has been no decisive actions on these topics. For example, a lack of such a standard has bred arguments that Prohibition of alcohol was wrong, because the crime rate increased because of it.

It doesn't matter, whether the People were angry over Prohibition, or how they reacted to it. What does matter is whether alcohol or drugs, in and of themselves, are inherently contravening the rights of man. Alcohol and drugs destabilize a man's liberty, in that it does not have good judgment after taking such substances. For all purposes, that does contravene a person's rights, and nobody, not even yourself, can take your rights away. Now, I made that argument from the stance that I hold to the general rule that the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness/property are inalienable,, and that the government's primary duty is to protect them in all its ways. If you believe, for example, that the government should follow only the whims and the beliefs of the People, then I am perfectly fine with that. However, there needs to be a standard to which you base your beliefs, or else all arguments will be unfocused, scattered, and inarguable.

dxs925
02-13-2010, 09:40 AM
you can have my alcohol when you pry it from my cold dead fingers...go ahead and try...


i mean wtf i'm really good at beer pong and stuff, what the hell would we do at parties?


"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m266/cutemyspacetags/08/alcohol_drinks/zzzHennessy.jpg

DarknessInvasion
02-13-2010, 04:05 PM
If they do ban Alcohol then it would probably start a war. Many people are waiting to find a reason to start war (eventhough they're alot going on right now) so why give them one? so no, i don't think alcohol should be banned because it would prevent from people going insane and starting a riot.

Rasen
02-13-2010, 04:32 PM
to be honest no it shouldnt be banned <.< i drink for good reasons too,


the eeffects of alcohol can be good and can be bad, the only alcohol that is good for you is pure expensive alcohol <.< and i mean from wine shops and stuff because they do it professionaly

also some people drink to stop thinking about the bad stuff or just wollow in self pitty either way they should just do it at home and thats it, i drank to boost my hyperness...i turned in to
a hyper derranged weird sasuke fan and friend xD

dxs925
02-13-2010, 08:39 PM
to be honest no it shouldnt be banned <.< i drink for good reasons too,


the eeffects of alcohol can be good and can be bad, the only alcohol that is good for you is pure expensive alcohol <.< and i mean from wine shops and stuff because they do it professionaly

also some people drink to stop thinking about the bad stuff or just wollow in self pitty either way they should just do it at home and thats it, i drank to boost my hyperness...i turned in to
a hyper derranged weird sasuke fan and friend xD

see! I would totally strike up a conversation with Rasen, rather than anyone else if i was drunk, hell if i was sober and needed to be entertained lol. People can be really interesting, funny, and almost truthful enough to show the true colors of the soul immediately, when they've hit the sauce :p While everyone else would be quiet and think we're annoying we could care less, and rasen and i would be in our own world enjoying the hell out of ourselves till the sauce wore off.

Rasen
02-13-2010, 08:50 PM
see! I would totally strike up a conversation with Rasen, rather than anyone else if i was drunk, hell if i was sober and needed to be entertained lol. People can be really interesting, funny, and almost truthful enough to show the true colors of the soul immediately, when they've hit the sauce :p While everyone else would be quiet and think we're annoying we could care less, and rasen and i would be in our own world enjoying the hell out of ourselves till the sauce wore off.

exactly XD


but with me i went in to college tipsy once and god was i so hyper people thought i was on drugs but very entertaining like i said crazy derranged
sasuke fan xD i act more childish when drunk :p

dxs925
02-13-2010, 09:11 PM
Haha thats cool lol, right on Rasen! For me, I went to a lot of things I was not sober for that i should have been....<====ROFL, granted its kind of messed up but, the thing i love doing is trying my best to hide that im messed up and just enjoying myself and everyone elses company around me lol. its a practice thing.

Gaara
02-14-2010, 12:44 PM
I dont think it should be banned it stops people from starting wars as other members have said i drink every now and then but i can hold my drink and when i do drink it is in someone i know house so its safe to say i wouldnt start any fights. Plus it is good every now and then for when people need to get over there problems heck the new years eve party going into new year i was single and at the party was couples so when they played poker i sat downstairs and drank

Rasen
02-14-2010, 01:08 PM
i'll put it in basic words for everyone

you take alcohol away from me "I Kill You!" xD