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Umineko no Naku Koro ni: Episode 2 - Turn of the Golden Witch

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This is the discussion for the Umineko Episode 2 - Turn of the Golden Witch. If you have any questions, comments, findings in this episode post them here. If you reference any other scenes after Episode 2 please put them in spoilers so we don't ruin the rest of the series to people just starting the series. [image: http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii273/xAsamoyax/4_886_13c87979a3fc7de-1.jpg] Following the events of the first chapter, this chapter features the first battle between Battler and Beatrice as they oversee the events on Rokkenjima from the "meta-world". The family conference occurs as usual, only this time Beatrice exists on the island as its 19th resident, introducing multiple magical elements to the story. Other major themes involve the relationships between George and Shannon, Jessica and Kanon, and Maria and Rosa. Red Truths (From the VN and Anime) Click here to see full text -When I speak the truth, I will use red. -Everything I speak in red is the truth. -Regardless of whether they were living or dead, the six people definitely entered through the door. -Only one key to the chapel exists. -It is impossible to unlock the lock to the chapel without the chapel's key. -When the door to the chapel is locked, it prevents any and all methods of entry or exit. -Six people definitely entered through 'this front door' . -This morning, Rosa definitely took an envelope out of Maria's handbag, and thereby obtained the genuine key to the chapel. -The key to the chapel truly was the object inside the envelope I gave Maria. -The letter that I handed over to Maria and the one Rosa opened are the same thing. -The only master keys are the ones that each servant holds, one per person. -There are absolutely no types of hidden doors. -This door is the only way in or out . -The only way to lock this door is with Jessica's single key or the master keys, only one of which is held by each servant. -The window is locked from the inside. -Kanon was killed in this room. -When locked, entry is not possible by any means. -No trick could have the effect of locking the door from the outside without using a key. -Kanon was killed in this room. -There are no hidden doors in this room. -There is no way to get in or out other than the door and the window. -There are no hidden doors. -[Those are] kept in the key box in center of the servants' room. -[There are several keys to the servants' room, but] all of those are inside the key box. -Entry or exit is impossible except for the single door and single window. -And those were both locked. -The door and the window do not permit any kind of entry or exit when they are locked. -It is impossible to unlock the door without a key to the servants' room or the master key. -No one exists in this room except all of you. 'All of you' refers to Battler, George, Maria, Rosa, Genji, Gohda, and Shannon. -When Jessica's corpse was discovered, only Battler, George, Maria, Rosa, Genji, Gohda, Shannon, Kumasawa, and Nanjo were in Jessica's room. -[Whoops, the corpse of] Jessica is also included. -Therefore, both in the case of Jessica's room and the case in this servants' room, no humans exist that are you were not aware of. -No one is hiding. -No method exists by which the door can be locked from the outside without using a key. -Regarding the window, no method exists by which it could somehow be locked from the outside. -You are incompetent! -hi-hhihihhihihihihihihihihihihi!! -Come on, Ushiromiya Battler, kneel. -If you accept me, all of the riddles will be resolved. -With my power, any kind of closed room can be created or destroyed!! -I'll make you my favorite furniture. -I'll love you so much, and make you my toy until you turn to ashes *cackle*cackle*cackle*hihihihihihihihihi hihyahyahyahhahhahahahaha-hhahahahhahhahhahhahhahhahha!! -There are only 5 master keys. -There are only 5 master keys. -There are only 5 master keys. -I keep my promises. -The door and the windows were locked from the inside. -There is no fraud or trick, there is no means of secret passage and no hidden place. -Natsuhi's own key was in George's pocket, and the inside of the room was closed off. -Only the five master keys were left, and 'Rosa' was holding all of them. -And let me say this, the parlor's the same. -The original key to the parlor is sealed in the servants' room. So unlocking it without the master key is impossible! The definition of a closed room is the same as always!
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I remember this episode. Battler was always countering Beatrice's red truths one way or another and it kind of stumped me! I don't know how Battler was able to counter-attack so much!! [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/eek.gif]
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I wish they kept the scene where Beatrice tells Battler, "You are incompetent!" [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/lmao.gif]
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BEATRICE ACTUALLY SAID THAT!? Dammit why didn't they keep it?! That would've been HILARIOUS!!!! [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/sign0108.gif]
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They kept out alot of funny scenes. I'm not sure myself. [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/sign0108.gif]
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Thats so not fair!!!! [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/bored.gif] I would've been WEAK!!! [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/sign0108.gif]
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Dammit Studio DEEN! WHY!? [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/yelling.gif]
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IT WOULD'VE BEEN FUNNEH AND EPIC TO SEE!!!! [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/sad0049.gif] [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/ball0015.gif]
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Hopefully they'll make the second season (If we get one) better. [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/sad0025.gif] Explains Red Truth a little bit better. [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/biggrin.gif] You Tube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esr4XSCeZOc) You Tube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esr4XSCeZOc) [media: http://www.youtube.com/v/esr4XSCeZOc&ap=%2526fmt%3D18&fs=1]
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I can't watch ittttt [image: http://animeforum.org.uk/images/smilies/bored.gif] Comp being slow >.<

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